{"id":25,"date":"2011-06-21T02:27:46","date_gmt":"2011-06-21T02:27:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pilot.stsnext20.org\/conference\/?page_id=25"},"modified":"2011-06-21T02:27:46","modified_gmt":"2011-06-21T02:27:46","slug":"live-feed","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/stsnext20.org\/conference\/live-feed\/","title":{"rendered":"Live feed archive"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Below is an archive of the live feed that took place during the 2011 conference. It is preserved both as a written record of what took place during the conference (its time stamps in particular may be useful in locating things discussed in the <a href=\"..\/video\">video<\/a> of the conference), and as the result of an experiment in simulcasting the conference proceedings internationally.<\/p>\n<p>Like all such records, it contains typos, mistakes, discussions about whether the video streaming was working correctly, and other ephemera. It has not been edited and will not be (avatar images have been stripped out to improve loading time, but nothing else has been changed).<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3>705 Comments to \u201cLive feed\u201d<\/h3>\n<ol class=\"commentlist livefeedarchive\">\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 5:52 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hi everyone.  I\u2019m Sam Evans, a fellow at the Harvard STS Program, and I will be blogging the first session of STSNext20. We\u2019ll get started in 10 minutes or so<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Tim Forsyth<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 5:58 pm<\/div>\n<p>Greetings from London<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 5:59 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hi Tim!  Welcome.  Are you getting the live feed?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hello from Ithaca. Lots of familiar faces in the audience.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Toluwalogo Odumosu<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:01 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hi Everyone, Tolu here.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:02 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hi both \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:05 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sheila Jasanoff begins the event by welcoming everyone.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Toluwalogo Odumosu<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:06 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hi Rachel<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:06 pm<\/div>\n<p>Can the volume be cranked up a bit? Hard to understand the speaker.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:07 pm<\/div>\n<p>We are working on that.  Sorry if it\u2019s too quiet.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Tim Forsyth<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:06 pm<\/div>\n<p>I dont know what others can hear, but I can\u2019t hear anything \u2013 it is very faint<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:10 pm<\/div>\n<p>Is the sound any better now, Tim?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Tim Forsyth<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:10 pm<\/div>\n<p>marginally better, but still not enough\u2026 sorry<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/profiles.google.com\/lizmoor\">Liz Moor<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:11 pm<\/div>\n<p>Agreed, can\u2019t hear a thing!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">MalteZiewitz<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:11 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hello from Oxford. I agree it\u2019s more like a silent movie.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/profiles.google.com\/mayamitre\">Maya Mitre<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sound is good now, for me here in Brazil. Hi and thank you!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Tim Forsyth<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>A scary black and white silent movie<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>Applause for Team STS from Estonia! The sound for me is OK, but I have no visuals \u2013 my movie is a still! Ought I refresh, perhaps\u2026<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">MalteZiewitz<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:14 pm<\/div>\n<p>OK, if you tell me what you hear, I tell you what I see. \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Maja Horst<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:14 pm<\/div>\n<p>Greatings from Denmark: I think the microphone for the speaker does not feed \u2013 because we could hear the clapping and laughter, but not Sheila<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:14 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hi everyone! Here in the Netherlands I have decent sound with earphones, but no moving picture as well.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ted Porter takes the podium to discuss \u201cDoes STS Matter, and to Whom?\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:17 pm<\/div>\n<p>With headphones and volume set to max I can understand maybe half of what Andrew Jewett is saying.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/axkibe\">Axel Kittenberger<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>I hear that \u201cSTS\u201d appears in many sentences.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:17 pm<\/div>\n<p>erm, Ted Porter, I meant<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:17 pm<\/div>\n<p>Tim says STS has been moderately successful in enhancing discussion on science and technology issues, though it does not have the control of the discourse like the natural science or medical disciplines do.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Tim Forsyth<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yes headphones help, but still faint. Actually really blurred<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/axkibe\">Axel Kittenberger<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:19 pm<\/div>\n<p>Is it possible that the wrong Microphone is feeding?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Toluwalogo Odumosu<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:19 pm<\/div>\n<p>wworking on the audio. we may have to move the camera during the first brek.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Anonymous<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:19 pm<\/div>\n<p>I\u2019m still finding it very faint, too\u2026a bit better than before, but still hard to understand.  Thanks.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>As science is brought more openly into policy-making, we tend to see science as a well-demarcated affair, keeping free of conflict.  But now, the incentives for contesting \u201cwhat is science\u201d have never been more compelling.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:21 pm<\/div>\n<p>Our modern debates has provided forums for asking questions that scientists used to be better at suppressing.  Our current \u201cun-modern\u201d uncertainty have created a space for STS.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Pantea Bashi<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:21 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hello from Germany. Thank you for the live feed. The sound is not really clear because it is the room sound and not the one from the speakers microphone. Is there a possibility to improve that? Thanks a lot.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>We will re-jig it in the first break.  Sorry for the low audio volume!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/monamiebhadra\">Monamie Bhadra<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>Such a shame that even with headphones, I can hear only every fifth word.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>What sort of knowledge should be brought to bear on problems involving science and technology?  An STS training can provide indispensable skills<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>OK, now I get nothing anymore\u2026<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>Same!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/axkibe\">Axel Kittenberger<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>you-u-u-u get-t-t-t it-t-t<\/p>\n<p>with-h-h-h-h the-e-e-e echo-o-o-o if-f-f you-u-u reload-d-d-d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-3\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/axkibe\">Axel Kittenberger<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:29 pm<\/div>\n<p>My error, i had two windows open. Its okay now. Thank you.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>A motto for our field: Not just thin discription, but thin description thickly described<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yeah, feed is gone. Well, let\u2019s rely on Sam\u2019s tweets for now.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:26 pm<\/div>\n<p>One of the real contributions of STS calls attention to the material aspects of the science.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>And the social practices that surround them<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Tim Forsyth<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sound is better, thanks<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>Science promotes knowledge without knowledge of the knower<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:29 pm<\/div>\n<p>Science supports (and seeks to develop) evidence that seems to stand for itself.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS is the far-flung community of scholars that takes serriously the impact of science and technology to almost every aspect of life<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>The historical form is no alternative to STS, but can enhance and extend it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>We need to write both for the public, and for the millstones of bureaucracy.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:34 pm<\/div>\n<p>Andrew Jewett now takes the podium as a discussant for Ted\u2019s talk.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>Andy started his studies in STS with Ted Porter\u2019s Trust in Numbers, which helped liberate him from the parochialisms of American history.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:38 pm<\/div>\n<p>Intellectual historians often have more in common with other disciplines, than with other historians.  This is certainly true for communicating with STS<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>Andrew Jewett emphasizes the common language shared by STSers and those in related fields.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>At first glance, intellectual history seems to be antithesis to STS, pontificating on the intelligentsia of past times.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Context has now become a keyword in current intellectual history, focusing on how intellectuals make and use knowledge.  A lot of this is informed and in dialogue with STS.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>\u201c\u2018Context\u2019 as a keyword\u201d many. More so than \u201cideas\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:43 pm<\/div>\n<p>Andy looks at how and why the objectivist civic epistemology has taken such hold in the United States<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>Andy sees himself in general agreement with Ted\u2019s thoughts.  Who knows, even philosophers may one day see our light as well.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>Both Jewett and Porter emphasize the tight and fruitful connection between STS and history of science.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>It\u2019s now time for questions and answers.  If you have a question, post it and everyone else can vote if they would like to have it asked.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>Dorothy Zinberg says: the fact that Brian Williams, host of NBC, asks \u201cshould we believe scientists about the radiation hazards of nuclear plants\u201d show how our discourse has changed<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:48 pm<\/div>\n<p>Clark miller asks: Given imporance of the shared intellectual space for both understandin the modern condition and informing scholarship, do you think either of those statements should influence how we organize intellectual activity in the academy?  Should we continue to operate in old disciplines?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ted replies: positions are usually in departments.  A lot of money is interdisciplinary.  It is the discussions at those forums that are very stimulating.  To what extent does that need to move on to reconfugring departments?  I would like to have the faculty positions to maintain cross-fertilization.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:51 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sheila adds: departments have scarce positions, so what if they give the positions that include intellectual history to move to an STS-inflected department?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:52 pm<\/div>\n<p>Andy comments: people should be more respectful across disciplines, but that\u2019s hard to ask when funding is so tight<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:53 pm<\/div>\n<p>Discussing about disciplinarity, funding structures, and positions is very much based in US context and there might be different conclusions for STS in Europe, I think.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:53 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ted adds: History tolerates but does not demand close interaction with other disciplines.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:54 pm<\/div>\n<p>Q: Implications for education, on grad and undergrad level?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:55 pm<\/div>\n<p>Chris Jones asks: with the historical approach, do you have reflections looking at the history of the history of science and STS disciplines over the last 20 years?  Are we moving towards more of this engagement?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:57 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: are some disciplinary boundaries stronger than others?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 6:59 pm<\/div>\n<p>Andy comments: interdisciplinary communication has really only been improving in the last five years.  This is particularly true in the humanities vs the natural sciences.  The focus on interdisciplinarity is *seen* to be a good thing, but it is a big pressure on individuals because it adds to an already heavy workload.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:01 pm<\/div>\n<p>Porter: proliferation of a wide variety of \u2026 studies, many of them associated with some kind of identity politics, unlike STS<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ted: a large body of theory we now have in common could be roughly considered \u201cpostmodern\u201d.   For instance, we all know Foucault<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:04 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks for the first session.  we\u2019ll workon the sound now and Margo Lipstin will take over from me for live blogging the next session.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Toluwalogo Odumosu<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:05 pm<\/div>\n<p>Quick question, did the sound get better as we went along?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:05 pm<\/div>\n<p>For me it did. I could understand most of it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/axkibe\">Axel Kittenberger<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:06 pm<\/div>\n<p>Somewhat, but I need headphones and all sonds set to max. Its still taxing to listen to.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Melike Sahinol<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>yes, it did a bit better<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:05 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks, Sam!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Toluwalogo Odumosu<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks for the feedback. I will try and get the levels to be louder.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:10 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hello, I\u2019m Margo Boenig-Liptsin, I\u2019ll be taking over from Sam for the live blogging for this session.  Thank you for joining us!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:11 pm<\/div>\n<p>We\u2019re going to turn the audio off for just a sec while we test a new mic.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/axkibe\">Axel Kittenberger<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yes, Muuch better! <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-smiley\" src=\"http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/wp-includes\/images\/smilies\/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":-)\" \/> Thx<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">MalteZiewitz<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>Good job, Sam. Much better now.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>This is great now. Much louder<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>Is that any better?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Toluwalogo Odumosu<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>Audio should be better now!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: Definition of human has drastically changed. Example of arrest because of a DNA fingerprint &gt; genetic reductionism does not tell the whole story<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/axkibe\">Axel Kittenberger<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>20 years ago without a plane ticket there was just a r\u00e9sum\u00e9 to read. But to \u201calmost like there\u201d, we just take \u2018nother 20 years I suppose. <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-smiley\" src=\"http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/wp-includes\/images\/smilies\/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":-)\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:16 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sheila describes her edited volume around the topic of bioconstitutionalism, which is an attempt at a meta-level STS work \u2014 not just a case study<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>Douglas Kysar is from Cornell Law School, where Sheila started the STS department.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:21 pm<\/div>\n<p>Doug is an environmental law scholar; he says that it is a challenge for law to address environment because the \u201cenvironment\u201d is everywhere, while law works with abstractions, simplifications.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>Doug mentioned Alex Wellerstein\u2019s chapter in \u2018Reframing Rights,\u2019 which examines the topic of contingency in science and law<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>positivism v. coproduction\/bioconstitutionalism!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>\u201cDoes STS need an ethics?\u201d This is a very interesting question the Doug raises<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:29 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kysar: More concerned about genetic deprivation than about enhancement<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>Levinas!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>Subjects are not a given. Levinas: ethics is primary.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>Question: is the Levinasian face-to-face encounter the same through telepresence technologies?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>no firm ontologies or fixed ethics; as I understand it, ethics is taken not as fixed norms, but more like stories, in the sense of narrative ethics (Levinas, Ricouer)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>Does STS invite a sense of vertigo? Even ethics is questioned, not accepted as a given.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>Democracy as co-production and also as a technology.  The paradox of \u2018bootstrapping\u2019<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>Do we have any of the authors of Reframing Rights out there?  If so, please share your comments!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:36 pm<\/div>\n<p>Doug asks what the role of the STS scholar is.  His questions is important: how\/in what way do STS scholars intervene in actual decision making?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:37 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sheila: revealing moments of co-production is already a political act<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sheila re-words Doug\u2019s question: how do we, once we\u2019ve been in the \u201cswamp,\u201d  act?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: Once you\u2019ve been in the swamp of ethics and politics and science, how do you get out and answer the so-what question?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Oh, now we\u2019re seeing \u201cLunar History: Four views of the cataclysm\u2026\u201d <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-smiley\" src=\"http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/wp-includes\/images\/smilies\/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":-)\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Melike Sahinol<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>wrong room? \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ah, reloading the stream helped<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:43 pm<\/div>\n<p>Contributor to the \u2018Reframing Rights\u2019 volume from UC Berkeley:  it\u2019s up to the individual to decide how to act after the \u201cswamp\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>That\u2019s David Winickoff<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:43 pm<\/div>\n<p>individual action or are there procedures that can guide the STS scholar?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>Question if turn to the procedural is a solution to the swamp problem<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:46 pm<\/div>\n<p>What procedural, Harald?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-3 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>The procedural is what lawyers focus on.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-4 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:52 pm<\/div>\n<p>Is it being proposed as a \u2018safety net\u2019 to the swamp problem? Curious.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-5\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:56 pm<\/div>\n<p>I\u2019m skeptical of proceduralism as a solution on its own. This reminds of article in the current volume of SSS, discussing 4 approaches to the relation between technoscience and politics, one of them being formalism (which is not exactly the same as proceduralism, but close)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Tim Forsyth<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:46 pm<\/div>\n<p>Why does it have to be a swamp metaphor? Isn\u2019t this replaying the point behind the book We Have Never Been Modern? ie we have never not been in a swamp, but at least we know we know it?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:46 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: STS scholars (or anyone) should not be held reasonable for _not_ knowing what the best solution is.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/cyberlyra\">JanetPlanet<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:46 pm<\/div>\n<p>FYI conference backchannel chat is on Twitter at #stsnext20<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sheila advocates the contingency point that is in the book \u2014 a human being cannot know how his or her action is right<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:48 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sheila: procedurealism is never just procedural<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Melike Sahinol<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>we have to keep in mind that ethics shape technologies, too.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kaushik Sunder Rajan (Chicago)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>Are there other questions from our virtual participant you would like me to ask?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Tim Forsyth<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:52 pm<\/div>\n<p>[Thanks for asking Sam! Not sure it went down so well..]<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:54 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sunder Rajan\u2019s comment\/question to Doug: is Doug\u2019s point about STS prescriptions assuming that politics comes from above?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/cyberlyra\">JanetPlanet<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:56 pm<\/div>\n<p>hey @stsnext20, please put \u201cshare on Twitter\u201d on \u2013 your Twitter stream has dropped off the map.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:58 pm<\/div>\n<p>thanks for letting me know about the Twitter stream \u2014 Sam, do you know how to fix this?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 7:59 pm<\/div>\n<p>okay, I think it should work now<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: we have an ethical responsibility to tell it like we see it<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>Brian Wynne on the swamp: I\u2019m scholar and activist at the same time. We have an ethical responsibility as scholars to tell it as we see it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Melike Sahinol<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>..if you practice science as personal experience, too.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-3 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:11 pm<\/div>\n<p>Can you expand on that? Science as personal experience?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-4 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Melike Sahinol<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:21 pm<\/div>\n<p>\u201cWissenschaft als pers\u00f6nliches Erlebnis\u201d \u2013 science as personal \/ individual experience is a booktitle from  Hans Jonas. He appeals to the individual responsibility (also refering to Kant\u2019s categorical imperative).<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-5\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>I see. Thanks for clarifying.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:01 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: We are continually confronted with ethics. Ultimately: it\u2019s an issue of exposing the challenges for democracy posed by scientization<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Melike Sahinol<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:02 pm<\/div>\n<p>Q: Is \u201cout there\u201d a resistance to outsourced moralities (=STS scholars as normative agency)?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: we have a responsibility of connecting our understandings of science and of publics.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne seems to be confirming Sheila\u2019s point that STS scholars\u2019 work is itself a political act<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: we don\u2019t have to be prescriptive in the sense of philosophers. But describing what the challenges for democracy are.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:04 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kysar: integrity of ideas comes, in part, from the integrity of individual<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:06 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: the optimistic note in the \u2018Reframing Rights\u2019 \u2014 STS helping to articulate another kind of science, another focus for science \u2014 this is a democratic agenda<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:07 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: STS helps showing that there are alternatives, within and to S&amp;T.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:26 pm<\/div>\n<p>Third panel, on \u201cSTS, Politics, and Public Management: Disaster and the Politics of Intervention\u201d just beginning<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ok! There is now an audio-only feed for those on slow connections!  The link is at the top fo the video feed if you reload the page.  It\u2019s here too: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"rtsp:\/\/video2.harvard.edu\/broadcast\/stsconference.mp4\">rtsp:\/\/video2.harvard.edu\/broadcast\/stsconference.mp4<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ok!  Sam Evans back here taking over live blogging for the next session.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>Okay, no panel yet. Sorry for false alarm.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>Okay, no panel yet. Sorry for false alarm.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>We\u2019re back!  This session includes Daniel Barben (Aachen), Andrew Lakoff (USC), and Alan Irwin (Copenhagen Business School)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>We\u2019re back!  This session includes Daniel Barben (Aachen), Andrew Lakoff (USC), and Alan Irwin (Copenhagen Business School)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>Daniel Barben talking about his position at Aachen University, powerhouse of engineering. \u201cInterdisciplinarity not a big deal there\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>Barben teaches at Aachen University, an engineering university in Germany where classes\/projects are interdisciplinary<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>Aachen engaged in future studies, which allows him to promote STS<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>Future studies as a way of promoting STS in German university system<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>This session is about: STS, Politics, and Public Management: Disaster and the Politics of Intervention<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>At stake: Issues of critical analysis, of capacities of practically engaging, politics of intervention. E.g. Earthquake and nuclear crisis in Japan, Libya<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:36 pm<\/div>\n<p>all of the disasters that took place during the book\u2019s process to publication<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:37 pm<\/div>\n<p>what kind of interventions can STS make to thinking about disasters?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:38 pm<\/div>\n<p>Andrew Lakoff: Introducing edited volume on \u201cBiosecurity Interventions: Global Health and Security in Question,\u201d published in 2008<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>Oh sorry, I think it\u2019s a different book<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Lakoff: hope that the book (inexpensive and short) could influence policy; copies sent to congressional staff members<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Did anyone get the correct title?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:41 pm<\/div>\n<p>book: Disaster and the Politics of Intervention<\/p>\n<p>Edited by Andrew Lakoff<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:42 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:41 pm<\/div>\n<p>Volume concerned with designing successful interventions in disasters<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:42 pm<\/div>\n<p>\u201csocial science of disaster\u201d \u2014 disasters are influenced by social factors that need to be understood to intervene successfully<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:43 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sheila\u2019s contribution calls for \u2018technologies of humility\u2019 (see Nature article: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nature.com\/nature\/journal\/v450\/n7166\/full\/450033a.html\">http:\/\/www.nature.com\/nature\/journal\/v450\/n7166\/full\/450033a.html<\/a>)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Rob Hagendijk<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:43 pm<\/div>\n<p>unfortunately the live stream is scrambled and full of echo\u2019s<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>make sure you do not have multiple streams going on?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-3\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Rob Hagendijk<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:01 pm<\/div>\n<p>sorry, you were right!<\/p>\n<p>rob hagendijk watching from amsterdam<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Tim Forsyth<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>Lakoff, Andrew (ed) (2010) Disaster and the Politics of Intervention , NY: Columbia Uni Press.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>Lakoff: passes on to Alan Irwin to comment on success\/failure\/potential of volume<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>shout out to Denmark!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:46 pm<\/div>\n<p>Lakoff: will focus on the public role of STS<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Tim Forsyth<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:47 pm<\/div>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Disaster-Politics-Intervention-Columbia-Privatization\/dp\/0231146965\/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1302208953&amp;sr=8-2#_\">http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Disaster-Politics-Intervention-Columbia-Privatization\/dp\/0231146965\/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1302208953&amp;sr=8-2#_<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>Irwin: 3 points about book: how should we think about disasters? what themes emerge? what does it mean for politics of intervention?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>Irwin\u2019s reference:  Guardian article<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2011\/apr\/02\/natural-disasters-floods-earthquakes-landslides\">http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2011\/apr\/02\/natural-disasters-floods-earthquakes-landslides<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:48 pm<\/div>\n<p>tsunami \u201cas beyond the social\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>Irwin: We want experts to make sense of situation in Fukushima and other disasters for us<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>Irwin: the way disasters are portrayed is increasingly bound up with expert systems.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>disasters become \u201cextrapolations into the future\u201d (Jasanoff\u201ds term)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:51 pm<\/div>\n<p>example of private firefighters in California<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:51 pm<\/div>\n<p>private fire-fighters reminds one of private security firms (e.g. James Ferguson\u2019s work on large corporations in Africa)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:51 pm<\/div>\n<p>similar case: role of military contractors<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:52 pm<\/div>\n<p>Disasters \u2013 politics \u2013 market<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:53 pm<\/div>\n<p>Interesting: Irwin keeps suggesting that disasters point to the future.  How do they do this?  I wonder what Barben would say about this, since he\u2019s in future studies<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:54 pm<\/div>\n<p>Structuring sessions around books which significant portion of audience hasn\u2019t read doesn\u2019t seem to be the best format to me.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 8:59 pm<\/div>\n<p>Irwin suggests that \u2018dignity\u2019 is a good counterbalance to \u2018risk\u2019<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>Although we haven\u2019t read the books, it is important to discuss the latest in STS research.  We are, after all, interested in the next 20 years of STS work!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:02 pm<\/div>\n<p>Irwin: the anticipation of disasters is a challenge to governments.  Perhaps the anticipation is the link to the future.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Tim Forsyth<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hello Rob<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Rob Hagendijk<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:05 pm<\/div>\n<p>hi Tim<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Interesting how \u201cotherness\u201d is intended by Irwin and, previously, Kysar, in ethical terms.  Kysar as human otherness and Irwin as alternative futures<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:05 pm<\/div>\n<p>Clark: Knowing disasters and how to respond to them becomes endemic to everything a government\/public administration does every moment.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:05 pm<\/div>\n<p>Clark Miller makes interesting point about disaster as the exception or a view where disasters are ever-present in the realm of politics and regulation<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:06 pm<\/div>\n<p>Clark: blurring boundaries between natural disasters and human-made disasters (interestingly, the term \u201ctsunami\u201d was used by Japanese to describe Hiroshima and Nagasaki)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:08 pm<\/div>\n<p>Clark Miller on peculiar temporality of disasters: disasters appear from systems and frameworks that we\u2019re creating all of the time<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>Is this different from Beck\u2019s arguments about risk society? Sounds very similar to me.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:11 pm<\/div>\n<p>Trevor Pinch: two other books on disasters, Challenger Disaster and Normal Accidents<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:11 pm<\/div>\n<p>Trevor Pinch: mentions two books that predicted two accidents in the future.  Does this book predict a future disaster?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:11 pm<\/div>\n<p><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Normal-Accidents-Living-High-Risk-Technologies\/dp\/0691004129\">http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Normal-Accidents-Living-High-Risk-Technologies\/dp\/0691004129<\/a> and <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Challenger-Launch-Decision-Technology-Deviance\/dp\/0226851761\">http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Challenger-Launch-Decision-Technology-Deviance\/dp\/0226851761<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Melike Sahinol<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:13 pm<\/div>\n<p>(future) risk \/ disaster has supposed to be manageable. risk proposes descision. on my opinion descisions in interdisciplinary and complex fields are always descisions by different epistemic cultures. interdisciplinary issues have to be translated. STS could help to translate.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:13 pm<\/div>\n<p>I\u2019m wondering how a \u201cdisaster\u201d is defined?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>Japanese STS scholar: wonders what book can offer to Japanese STS scholars who were asked by Japanese government to help respond to tsunami and nuclear power plant disasters<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:16 pm<\/div>\n<p>That\u2019s Yuko Fujigaki, who will be speaking on Saturday.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Melike Sahinol<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>I was wondering how people construct certainty \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:16 pm<\/div>\n<p>With regard to the disaster in Japan, some friends of mine have started a website for collecting STS and HoS resources on the topic. <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/teach311.wordpress.com\/\">http:\/\/teach311.wordpress.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Pantea Bashi<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>will the live feed be recorded and can be watched later?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yes it will!  It might take a little time to get it up, though<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-3\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Pantea Bashi<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:24 pm<\/div>\n<p>great!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>Irwin: interested in how the news seizes on \u201cnews from below\u201d \u2014 on the stories of individuals rather than having experts (or in addition to having experts)..  experts provide the \u2018coherent framework\u2019<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hm, Irwin seems to discount first-hand, from below accounts as useful for making sense of a situation if there is no framework for situating them.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>Irwin: stories from below are a challenge to sense-making<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:26 pm<\/div>\n<p>Lakoff: bottom-up processes are already integrated into disaster preparedness systems.  The attempt of the volume was to show what has not yet been incorporated into disaster preparedness.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:29 pm<\/div>\n<p>I think this is a good point. An interesting case of bottom-up processes in the Japan disaster case is the \u201ccrisismapping\u201d on  the openstreetmap platform <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/wiki.openstreetmap.org\/wiki\/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami\">http:\/\/wiki.openstreetmap.org\/wiki\/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>Barben: panel brings up two issues \u2014 what\u2019s the role of legal principles (e.g. precautionary principle) in creating resilience\/protection? 2) how can we enhance anticipatory capacities?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>Goodbye, fellow-STSers. I have to go do some real work now, unfortunately.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks for your contributions, Harald<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>we continue with the 4th session on economics and sociology<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>participants: Joan Fujimura (Wisconsin), Pierre-Benoit Joly (Paris Est and IFRIS), David Stark (Columbia)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>Joly: 20 years ago economics and markets would not be an issue for STS, but the next 20 years must consider it<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=660647174\">Alex Wellerstein<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:34 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sam: Congrats on getting the live feed up and working! It looks great!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>Joly: explains STS approach to the economy\/economics.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>materiality and performativity are the two key concepts for understanding economy from STS perspective<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:41 pm<\/div>\n<p>Joly: growing importance of emotions in economics (behavioral economics) has potential to reconstruct economic sphere around this \u201cnew\u201d (for economists) understanding of human beings<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:42 pm<\/div>\n<p>Joly: second trend in economics is to design dispositif (apparatuses) to \u201cnudge\u201d by state<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:43 pm<\/div>\n<p>Joly: STS has many concepts that could be integrated into study of economy (civic epistemologies, coproduction, etc.)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>David Stark\u2019s volume, \u2018The Performativity to Reflexivity\u2019<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>Talcott Parson\u2019s Pact:<\/p>\n<p>economists get to \u201cwork\u201d the economy; social scientists will study the social relations within the economy<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:48 pm<\/div>\n<p>Stark: no one examines \u201ccalculation,\u201d even the sociologists.  STS (Michel Callon, Donald MacKenzie) move to define the social studies of finance<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>Stark: calculation is itself social \u2014 not socially embedded<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:51 pm<\/div>\n<p>reference to Donald MacKenzie\u2019s \u2018An Engine, Not a Camera\u2019<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:53 pm<\/div>\n<p>Stark references speech acts work of John Austin<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:54 pm<\/div>\n<p>Stark proposes a different sense of performativity; e.g. a financial model is an intervention<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:55 pm<\/div>\n<p>In Stark\u2019s definition, a model is performative when its use improves the predictive performance of the model (e.g. Moore\u2019s Law)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:55 pm<\/div>\n<p>Stark describes the feedback loop of economic prediction<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 9:56 pm<\/div>\n<p>materiality of reflexivity is socio-technical<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:01 pm<\/div>\n<p>I wonder to what extent reflexivity that Stark describes in relation to market models is also true of STS research in general..<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:06 pm<\/div>\n<p>explains the graph, the spread plot that traders use to bet<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>Whitington: relationship between reflexivity and feedback loops?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:19 pm<\/div>\n<p>Chris Jones: there is a lot of reflexivity in the field, but how do they represent their work to the world, which is the level of policy?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>*they* refers to scientists, economists<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>Stark: the object of study of sociality is being human.  Being in the world with objects is to be human.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:21 pm<\/div>\n<p>Stark is interested in devices that traders come up (devise) to deal with uncertainty, lack of knowledge, risk..<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:26 pm<\/div>\n<p>Stark: we have left out reflexivity as STS scholars.  But is this fair??<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kris Saha: how does the collapse of the financial crisis relate to the Parson\u2019s pact? i.e. how the disciplines were understanding interaction between reflexivity, STS, economics, break of fields\u2026<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>Daniel Barben: is Stark reproducing the argument of classic economics that you need diversity to create a market?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>Stark: is it right to think of the individual as the unit of cognition and decision maker?  There\u2019s the group of people and the instrumentation.  What\u2019s making the decision?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Pantea Bashi<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:38 pm<\/div>\n<p>Neuroscientists would say the brain is making the decision \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:34 pm<\/div>\n<p>Stark: cognition and action is distributed at the desk.  Even the lay out of the room is important for cognition.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>Stark: is the room the cognitive agent? the desk? the individual?  cognition is distributed throughout the arbitrage systems.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thank you for joining us and hope that you listen-in again tomorrow at 9am.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Margo Boenig-Liptsin<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:36 pm<\/div>\n<p>That\u2019s all for today, everyone.  See you tomorrow.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Pantea Bashi<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 7, 2011 at 10:36 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thank you for your work!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 12:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>The sound is good!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:04 pm<\/div>\n<p>Good morning everyone! Tolu Odumosu here, I will be live bloggin the first session.<\/p>\n<p>We should be starting in a few minutes<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:06 pm<\/div>\n<p>We are off!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>Welcome everyone. do have a look at the new provocation page above and give us your thoughts.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:10 pm<\/div>\n<p>As we go thru logistics, if you are watching with us, please do introduce yourself.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:10 pm<\/div>\n<p>First session: Defining the Boundaries!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:11 pm<\/div>\n<p>Suman Seth from Cornell Speaking.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>Line up this morning includes, Kaushik sunder Rajan, David Winickof and Javier Lezaun<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kaushik is giving a provocation.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/profiles.google.com\/mayamitre\">Maya Mitre<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:14 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hello. I am Maya. Watching from Brazil. I wonder if we can have access to the document Chris mentioned. I don\u00b4t see it in teh webpage. Thanks<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:14 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kaushik: We need to think about Biopolitics \u201celsewhere\u201d in the world in a non-derivative fashion<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:17 pm<\/div>\n<p>How do we think through technoscience and its interactions with postcolonialism?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Johanna Hoeffken<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hello! Johanna Hoeffken from Maastricht University is lsitening in too.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>MIT\u2019s imaginary can be described as technocratic<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:19 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hi Johanna!  Glad you can join in.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:19 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kaushik THSTI <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.thsti.res.in\/\">http:\/\/www.thsti.res.in\/<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kaushik: Important institutional differences in technocratic imaginaries of both THSTI and MIT<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>On what is at stake, Kaushik mentions taxpayers money, but did he attribute that concern to either of the camps \u2013 his Indian Scientists\/MIT dichotomy?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>Indian scientists much more aware of STS and coproduction<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>subjectivity of Indian scientists as marginal and marked explains their reflexivity somewhat.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:24 pm<\/div>\n<p>global postcolonial sensibility is NOT equal to anti-colonial inclinations.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>Is a global postcolonial sensibility limited to institutional and sociological critque? What about the epistemic?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>Is scientific universalism undermined by the globalization of science?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>Moving on to David\u2019s response<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>David: A lot of the innovative interventionist technologies (cook stoves, etc) are coming from India.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>David: The US community is becoming more aware of the \u201cshift in power\u201d in innovative capacities in this area.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:34 pm<\/div>\n<p>Winickoff describes an upswell of innovative energy and vitality from \u201cplaces like India\u201d as a shift in power. Does this not maintain the \u201celsewheres\u201d that Kaushik is trying to unsettle?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:36 pm<\/div>\n<p>David do I do STS inspired by Law, or Law inspired by STS? Answer: I do both!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:36 pm<\/div>\n<p>Winickoff is asking about Kaushik\u00e4s positionality and his thoguhts on an anthropologically inflected STS.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:38 pm<\/div>\n<p>Winickoff : Concepts, themselves, with traditions and long histories.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Javier speaks<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:41 pm<\/div>\n<p>Javier: Where should STS go in the next 20 years?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:42 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS is restless and appears everywhere.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:43 pm<\/div>\n<p>Javier: Kaushik asking us to follow the lifesciences in the post-genomic era<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>Javier: Follow the global postcolonial sensibility because it provides fodder for examining possibile disruptions in universalism.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:46 pm<\/div>\n<p>Javier: If we are to follow Kaushik, we need to remember that there is no free travel.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>Javier:What is the difference between an anthropology of science and technology, and STS inflected with anthropological overtones?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>Javier: The main question is where to go with which new companions and how to get there.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:51 pm<\/div>\n<p>Suman summarizes provincializing europe by Chakrabarty<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:52 pm<\/div>\n<p>Isn\u2019t it a neo-liberal claim to count MIT and IMTFI as fully representative of the global?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:53 pm<\/div>\n<p>or rather, counts as analysis of the \u201cglobal\u201d. I\u00e4m not sure either claimed fully representativeness\u2026<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:56 pm<\/div>\n<p>Chakrabraty\u2019s critque of incommensurability is itself relativizing \u2013 Kaushik<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 1:59 pm<\/div>\n<p>I am open to voicing your questions!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 2:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks! Still digesting KSR-speech!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/profiles.google.com\/ddemortain\">David Demortain<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 2:10 pm<\/div>\n<p>To David Winickoff: is it possible to be a constructionist policy-maker? Policy-making involves realpolitik, strategic analysis of interests involved and some amount of conflicting. Is STS realist(ic) enough to participate in policy-making and make a difference?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 2:16 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks David.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-3\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/profiles.google.com\/ddemortain\">David Demortain<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 2:56 pm<\/div>\n<p>thanks for voicing the question<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 2:46 pm<\/div>\n<p>Fascinating exchange between Jasanoff and Suman on where history\/STS might be seen to fail as a project in the kinds of questions it is able to ask and its own form of knowledge production. Arguing around Chakrabarthy, Suman would like to see (more?) problematization of structuring assumptions, Jasanoff is pointing out that it is through perhaps what Suman is calling \u201carrogance\u201d that what might previously not have been considered possible becomes so : eg long duree, subaltern studies and sitse of memory projects in history.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 2:53 pm<\/div>\n<p>Javier is picking up the Suman provocation again.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 2:55 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS as mode of attentiveness, and looking head on at issues of incommensurability. What was posed as a weakness can be seen as a strength. Why what was posed as the end can be positioned as the beginning.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-3\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 2:58 pm<\/div>\n<p>Suman shifting from incommensurability to relativism, itself as a concept we can historicize.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks Tolu!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks to all! We will be back in 15 mins<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>Second panel is underway: STS  on Difference<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:26 pm<\/div>\n<p>Complexity of co-construction of users and technologies as a place to study difference<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>Greene: How does STS configure difference differently?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Banu Subramaniam<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>the videos and audio feed stopped working for me towards the end of the last panel. is it just me or is there a technical problem?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:29 pm<\/div>\n<p>Working for me\u2026try the audio only?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-3\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Banu Subramaniam<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>yes, i did. neither is working. it says \u201cserver not found\u201d \u2014 it worked<\/p>\n<p>fine yesterday and all morning upto that point.<\/p>\n<p>so i am puzzled. thanks. i\u2019ll see what i can do my end<\/p>\n<p>banu<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>Steve Epstein\u2019s slides are available here: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/goo.gl\/AeYhs\">http:\/\/goo.gl\/AeYhs<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>Brilliant. Thanks Sam.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>One are for discussion: Identity politics and how they relate to science and technology<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>How are \u201crace\u201d and \u201csex\u201d operationalized in medical research?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>Take a look at Epstein\u2019s slides for  STS literature on difference.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/profile.php?id=721866128\">Tolu Odumosu<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>Having challenges with the feed? Try refreshing the page.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>Epstein uses difference in his work as an actor\u2019s category.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:34 pm<\/div>\n<p>What about religious identities in STS scholarship? Has this dimension been given enough attention?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:36 pm<\/div>\n<p>We turn to some data\u2026 Please refer to Epstein\u2019s slides.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:38 pm<\/div>\n<p>What about social class in STS literature?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>Is STS scholarship on difference impacting other disciplines?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:42 pm<\/div>\n<p>Epstein is setting up the panelist to hopefully discuss how STS scholarship on difference can pollinate research in other domains.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>On the panelists\u2026<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>Nelly Oudshoorn: co-production of technoscience and bodies<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>Nelly points out that the time for discussion has been foregrounded. This might seem mundane, but I was thrilled that there was so much space for questions and talk after this morning\u00e4s first panel.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>Nice! Nelly provided a connection to the previous panel \u2013 difference ties into how the \u201cother\u201d is understood and constructed.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>Should we rethink our own vocabulary? Should we be talking about diversity and not difference?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hi, joining in again from Maastricht, NL. I think it is remarkable that Nelly notes that she is invited to do the same kinds of debates now as she was in the 1970s. Does that mean she believes STS has been unable to get any messages across? How do other virtual participants feel about this?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:56 pm<\/div>\n<p>I\u00e4d suggest she was reflecting on how things emerge and re-emerge at particular times, less about whether or not any message got across (across where, to whom, what are the constants in time that we might want to imagine?) or not.There\u00e4s another question of difference, the shifting arenas into which \u201cmessages\u201d fall?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:53 pm<\/div>\n<p>Themes: We should study age as a category, and turn to other locations where the production of knowledge is connected to difference.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:54 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sherine Hamdy: Question of how religious knowledge (as an alternative rationality) comes to shape notions of difference?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 3:58 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sherine: Religious knowledge influences cost-benefit analysis of science and technology.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:01 pm<\/div>\n<p>Mike Lynch responding to Steve in a way that is \u201cnot defensive\u201d!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:02 pm<\/div>\n<p>Comment from the audience: Religion has influenced the analytical approach of STS scholars.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:06 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS has dissected the \u201creligion\u201d of science, but have we understood religion?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>What is rational and what is not, what is cultural and what is not \u2013 Sherine is thinking along with Suman on what STS approaches have implicit within them.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>Observation: I wonder if we can relate the question of STS analysis of religion and difference to Suman\u2019s previous question about whether there are domains where STS can fail?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>Perhaps it is the phrasing as \u201cfail\u201d that people are reacting to negatively? Examinations of failure, as STS scholars know more than most, can be fascinating. Just seeing a \u201cfail\u201d, and seeing just a \u201cfail\u201d are different thigns (ie being able to vs only being able to)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-3\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ok, she is disagreeing with this \u2013 concern with intergenerational transmission within the discipline and the reinvention of the wheel. \u201cRehearsal of the same debate all of the time \u2013 what can we do here to reframe it?\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>More productively, why has STS not taken on religious rationality more?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:16 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yep,there is clearly a thread of limits\/edges which applies as much to the engagement with different differences as to the way in which we have dealt with the possibilities of alterities, or alternative ontologies.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>Nelly: STS should reflect on generational understandings and analysis of difference.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>From the audience: Who should our intellectual companions be to further analysis of difference?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>Nelly : human geographers , for their focus on the places and spaces of knowledge production.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hello everyone. Seems like I\u2019ve missed a lot this morning.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:29 pm<\/div>\n<p>It has been brilliant so far!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:29 pm<\/div>\n<p>The travel metaphor is doing a lot of work.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>Brian Wynne: Challenge to the panelists to expand their notions of difference.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>What about cases where difference has been denied?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:38 pm<\/div>\n<p>Nelly: Methodological point. Analysts should not go into a sociotechnical domains with an idea of difference.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>From the audience: What about difference beyond humans?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sherine: What about non human actors that are limiting human agency?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:42 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sherine is considering how and when in bioethics, differences are put in categories such as the social or cultural \u201cdifference\u201d, a move which relies on a ground of universalised concepts of the body. She is observing that a biological ground is assumed to be the same  (eg. that a body doesn\u00e4t really need two kidneys) may not be (eg. because of high rates of schistosomiasis or other compromising factors) thus the notion of acceptable harm changes. It was in response to a point about differences which are denied\/made less visible, and the STS role in that situation.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>I really liked this as an example for the entanglement of the biological and the social\/cultural.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>What gets called science and what gets called religions \u2013 take different shapes and do different social work depending on the context. \u2013 Sherine<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/profiles.google.com\/sahakris\">Krishanu Saha<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>The conceptions of difference on this panel are too narrow.  Classifying something as different is a itself an epistemic act.  Differences between normal and pathological are fundamental to medical knowledge.  Differences between genetic and epigenetics are fundamental to some fields of biology.  Could you have STS without difference?  It\u2019s part of how we generate and operate with particular ontologies.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>Difference is also needed for building disciplines.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Anonymous<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>I haven\u2019t heard anyone mention differences in \u201cability\u201d (particularly neurological and psychiatric disabilities and disorders), though there is certainly some STS (and STS-related) work that problematizes how ability differences are framed, both in the sense of their being \u201cconstructed\u201d and\/or in the sense of their being \u201cdenied.\u201d  I\u2019m thinking of Chloe Silverman\u2019s work on autism and Emily Martin on bipolar disorder, among other<\/p>\n<p>projects.  Any thoughts on the place \u2014 current or potential \u2014 of this kind of work within STS?<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Suzanne Kirschner<\/p>\n<p>College of the Holy Cross and<\/p>\n<p>Harvard University (Visiting Scholar spring 2011)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/rjmilne\">Richard Milne<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>I agree, classification and difference are at the heart of STS, and I think Jeremy\u2019s point about the difference\/similarity between GMOs, pharmaceuticals etc. pointed away from the use of \u201cactor categories\u201d towards these questions. However, it\u2019s also interesting to see how sociological differences are inflected through an STS perspective.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 4:58 pm<\/div>\n<p>Epstein: calling for reflexivity in the categories we analyze.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>It seems that there would be scope to go through this panel and look at the different ways that people are talking about difference \u2013 on reflexivity inthe categories we analyze and use for analysis. They could be scaled : the (scalar) difference between the kind Suzanne is missing vs the kind that is raised as a distinguisher between disciplines. Bateson would be laughing.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Winickoff to the panel: What do you recommend for the codification of difference in legal and policy contexts?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:06 pm<\/div>\n<p>Haraway did not teach Kaushik *how* to \u2018do gender\u2019 but simply told him, when he asked, that he ought to \u201cbe attentive\u201d, and hold a certain kind of vigilance.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:08 pm<\/div>\n<p>I\u2019d say that \u201cmodes of attentiveness\u201d are part of what constitutes a discipline.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-3 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:11 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yes, so are these modes something the disciplines could positively share, use as ground? I am interested in the recurrent thread of anthropology, being an anthropologist.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-4\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>One way to get at that would probably to look at the core syllabi posted on this website and trying to see what they have in common. The modes of attentiveness of anthropology, in my account, would certainly be an important part of it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:11 pm<\/div>\n<p>From the audience: drawing attention to how categories are going digital. Should this be an issue for STS? Should surveillance studies be included in STS scholarship?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:17 pm<\/div>\n<p>It\u2019s too bad that Annemarie Mol is not speaking at the conference. She might have provided interesting insights.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">R Douglas-Jones<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>We need to get her online!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sherine: Suggestion to change approach to bodies and health management from patient rights and consumerism to a greater emphasis on \u201ctinkering\u201d care.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:19 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks for joining us! We will be back at 2:15 to discuss:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSTS and the Public Sphere\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>We\u2019re asking participants here and around the world to give us their ideas, in 60sec or less, on three questions: 1) Why do you think STS matters (to you, to anyone)? 2) Hid did you come into STS? 3) What new problems or challenges do you think STS needs to address?<\/p>\n<p>Feel free to video your own (60sec!) thoughts and share them with us.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 5:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>Alright, time for a break. Back at 2:15 :: STS and the Public Sphere<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>Welcome back!  I\u2019m Margo Boenig-Liptsin, one of Sheila\u2019s students, and I will be in charge of the live blog for this session.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:21 pm<\/div>\n<p>Participants of this panel includes John Dryzek, Sheila Jasanoff, Myles Jackson, and Brian Wynne<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:24 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff discusses her methods in organization of the conference: \u201cProvocations\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff\u201ds theoretical contribution to the public sphere<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:26 pm<\/div>\n<p>public engagement v. public sphere<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>\u201cthe public\u201d \u2014 as understood by Dewey \u2014 the phantom, incapable of informed self-governance<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>on the other hand, Congress understands public as capable of understanding highly technical issues<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: it matters how we imagine \u201cthe public\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>As new viewers come online, do introduce yourselves!  And feel free to contribute your thoughts.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>This morning\u2019s \u201celsewhere\u201d to start from was India, Jasanoff\u2019s  \u201celsewhere\u201d is the law<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hi Sam. I\u2019ve been around for a while \u2013 only left you for dinner when you had lunch<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:34 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS helps to \u201cthicken\u201d understanding of the public.  STS shows that collective preferences are tied up with understanding, not existent a priori<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:34 pm<\/div>\n<p>\u201cpotential publics\u201d ready to be engaged<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:37 pm<\/div>\n<p>liberal view of the public: group of individuals OR collective view of public, unified by shared norms<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:37 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS takes seriously the way the public is co-produced by science and technology<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:38 pm<\/div>\n<p>the problems of STS with regard to publics: our focus on technology can narrow our attention to the political<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS focuses on technoscientific moments, where we are following the science and technology<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>we need to take into consideration why publics are constructed and for whom (in relation to power)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:41 pm<\/div>\n<p>what are publics useful for?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:42 pm<\/div>\n<p>Could the slides Sheila is apparently using be made available?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>I know, but I wasn\u2019t able to get Sheila\u2019s slides before the talk.  We\u2019ll try to get them up soon<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:42 pm<\/div>\n<p>what construction of the human does \u201cnudge\u201d theory assume?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>Myles Jackson, historian of science<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>Great, thanks<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:46 pm<\/div>\n<p>historians of science are interested in public sphere as communication, openness of shared knowledge<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:46 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jackson: interested in communicability of scientific knowledge<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:48 pm<\/div>\n<p>scientific knowledge historically contrasted with secretive, private artisan knowledge<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:48 pm<\/div>\n<p>scientific knowledge as enabling a \u201cpublic sphere from below\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jackson contrasts this historical view of shared scientific knowledge with recent scholarship that emphasizes the secretive consequences of patents<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:51 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jackson: there are institutions\/organizations that promote openness of science and technology knowledge<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:52 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jackson assumes that sharing is a scientific norm \u2014 is this historically true, when you look beyond the statements of scientists to their practice?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:54 pm<\/div>\n<p>Brian Wynne: post-scientific life began in Edinborough<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:55 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: interested in looking at scientific knowledge in public arenas<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:58 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: how do we know what the public is actually concerned about?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 6:59 pm<\/div>\n<p>Do we seem to presume what they care about or do we begin with the understanding that we don\u2019t know?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: publics rarely claim to know better than the expert scientists<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:01 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: it is also rarely recognized that public knowledge is of a different kind than the scientists\u2019<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: if we conceive of consulting with public only about risk and safety, then we already assume that the public can only comment on these aspects of science and technology.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne:  Difference and disagreement of the public is thought of as a deficit by policy makers and scientists (this is the \u201cdeficit model\u201d)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:06 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: the scientization \u2014 science informing identity on publics\u2013 of public arena<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:08 pm<\/div>\n<p>* \u201cimposing\u201d instead of \u201cinforming\u201d (see previous post)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Rob Hagendijk<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:08 pm<\/div>\n<p>who is this?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hi Rob!  I hope things are going well in Amsterdam.  Do let us know if you\u2019d like to ask a question.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:10 pm<\/div>\n<p>Clark Miller (ASU):<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:10 pm<\/div>\n<p>Welcome to our viewers from Asia!  Do get involved and post any questions you would like asked.  We\u2019ll do our best to get a mic and ask them.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>Miller: the only kind of contestation that is legitimate in court is epistemic<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:13 pm<\/div>\n<p>Miller: the problem is about the institutional dimension of democratic practices (e.g. court system), not cognitive or epistemic deficit<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:13 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: I was describing an institutional-cultural condition \u2014 it\u2019s not a purely cognitive issue, but a cultural one<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>Climate issue can provide an entry to discussion of public and science<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:17 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: nation by nation responses to \u201cclimate gate\u201d reveal broader national cultural identities<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: why has anthropogenic description of climate change been unproductive to rial the public?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: the fact that the IPCC has had so little effect is being blamed on the public.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: little evidence indicates that the public is actually against action on climate<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>Allistair: studying STS can be thought of as the study of science, technology, and the public sphere.  So what is the difference?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: scientists in labs always imagining an audience (funders, patrons, patients, customers..)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>Allistair: is there still a role for lab studies?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: lab studies is the basic method of STS.  Of course, one should still continue to do them in interesting areas of S&amp;T development.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff:  but new issues might draw us attention, e.g. ethics and values<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: we can adopt a more expansive sense of \u201clab\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Jamie Cohen-Cole<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>Without assuming that, as lab studies have, that the public is, somehow outside the lab.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: we have to not just go where S&amp;T is producing the latest and greatest invention.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:34 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ulrike Felt (U of Vienna)<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Rob Hagendijk<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:38 pm<\/div>\n<p>Everything Ok here. The flow is having a little compression every 1\/2 minute but  I am not really missing any words.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>ok.  you could always mute the video feed and take the audio from the audio-only feed <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-smiley\" src=\"http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/wp-includes\/images\/smilies\/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":-)\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: what we can do as STS scholars is to \u201cnudge\u201d \u2014 use the existent structures to our advantage<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Rob Hagendijk<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>tried but that does not work for me right now the system says<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: framing of public becomes a justification for the neglect of the public concern<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Rob Hagendijk<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>quite right Brian!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ulrike Felt: need to think about how to scale up our efforts<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>Question: there\u2019s been an incorporation of info and communication technologies into the public sphere and scientific knowledge production.  given this development, are you still seeing deficit structure models?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:51 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: we should be careful about how the questions of technological democratization are put in the first place.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:52 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: American preferences to construct agora as market rather than political forum results in construction of user as a consumer rather than citizen<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:53 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: we should first find out the historical facts of WikiLeaks and then start asking questions about tech democratization<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:55 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kaushik Sunder Rajan is speaking<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:56 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kaushik: are different publics the products of the different underlying structures?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 7:59 pm<\/div>\n<p>Wynne: society as the new laboratory \u2014 when we conduct experiments in a lab, we don\u2019t know what questions the experiments will pose.  If we\u2019re experimenting in the field, we should think about the question for the experiment more.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:02 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ted Porter: what are the objections to the deficit model?  It seems that one is that deficit is not just what the public doesn\u2019t know, but that there\u2019s misinformation in the public sphere.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:05 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: we need to think about the interpretive framework \u2014 why were the statistics not trusted?  why was the confidence over rated?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:07 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: yes, one should worry about misinformation circulating, but doesn\u2019t that put us back to the question of designing the kind of figures\/institutions that we trust<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: we need to take into consideration the discourses and practices of the experiment as well as the realism.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks for listening and see you in 15 minutes.  \u2013 Margo<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>If you want to load up Trevor Pinch\u2019s slides, they are here: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/goo.gl\/PsZvy\">http:\/\/goo.gl\/PsZvy<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>We are back!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:36 pm<\/div>\n<p>Langdon Winner introduces the panel and goes back 40 years, not 20.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Trevor Pinch begins his provocation\u2026<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>Trevor: In STS we like having fights and disagreements. This is a strength, not a weakness.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>Long debates over the role of the ampersand<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>Trevor gives a history of the founding of the STS Department at Cornell<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>with an emphasis on the car-parking debate that overshadowed the decision to create the STS department.  Everyone wanted to talk about cars, so they created the department with barely any debate!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS can never take stability for granted<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>opening the black box has shown that politics can be found in the hardest of artifacts.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:51 pm<\/div>\n<p>Power lies with the small stuff of life as well as with the big stuff.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 8:54 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS still has to show (sociology) how materiality and technology are embedded in  classic social theories<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:02 pm<\/div>\n<p>David Kaiser is on now.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:02 pm<\/div>\n<p>David Kaiser\u2019s slides are here: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/goo.gl\/t5PUu\">http:\/\/goo.gl\/t5PUu<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:04 pm<\/div>\n<p>scientific consensus is messy and usually the matter of face to face conversations<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:07 pm<\/div>\n<p>David Kaiser on cold war bubble: graph of US PhDs in physics compared to graph of financial crisis.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:10 pm<\/div>\n<p>Importance of paying attention to scale in opening the black box.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>Production of similarity in the rapid growth of physics departments was done through detailed micro practices like swapping syllabi.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>Antoine Picon is on now.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:13 pm<\/div>\n<p>Picon: Have we really opened the black box?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:14 pm<\/div>\n<p>Picon: Reading STS, it sometimes seems too abstract.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>Picon: STS has not sufficiently impacted the social sciences.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>Picon: Even the thick descriptions are not sufficiently descriptive from a technical viewpoint.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>Picon: STS appears pre-occupied with simple and simplified technical examples e.g. Latour\u2019s hotel keys.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>Brian: STS and SCOT is about roads not taken..<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 8, 2011 at 9:42 pm<\/div>\n<p>Picon: solution to my provocation may lie in new modes of co-operation<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>Morning everyone.  We are having a slow start this morning, but things should be beginning in a few minutes.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:14 pm<\/div>\n<p>Welcome to the third and final day of STS: The Next Twenty.  The first panel this morning will start shortly, which will look at \u201cThe Core of STS: Where are we? Where are we headed?\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:16 pm<\/div>\n<p>Good morning. For me the sounds is very faint again. Am I the only one?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>I am having the same problem. Can\u2019t hear what Clark\u2019s saying at all<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:16 pm<\/div>\n<p>We apologize if there is some feedback on the audio.  we are working on it and should have it sorted at the beginning of the next session.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:17 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kris Saha points out that we will be having a discussion this lunchtime on the provocation document: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/a-provocation\/\">http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/a-provocation\/<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>If you want to provide feedback, do so either on the document itself, via the email on that page, or commenting here during the lunch.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>Clark Miller begins the session<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:19 pm<\/div>\n<p>When building a  field we need to focus on the ideas of the field, but also its pedagogy.  Today looks at the latter<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:21 pm<\/div>\n<p>The problem with being in a different place every day!  We\u2019re troubleshooting it now.  Apologies.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>Once every twenty years, is probably not too often to have a reflection on the core of the field.  This panel provides a representation of that core.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>That\u2019s much better. Thanks!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>Steven Hilgartner take over<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:24 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hilgartner describes the different ideas of the \u201ccore\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/profiles.google.com\/locontoa\">Allison Loconto<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>Much better now. Thanks for showing the slides!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:26 pm<\/div>\n<p>Saying that STS is an independent discipline doesn\u2019t say that members of it can\u2019t be members of other disciplines as well.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hilgartner goes through the \u201cof\u201d models<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS should try to move up the gradient of institutional strengthen, and to do that, we need a \u201ccore\u201d of people involved.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>This core of STS is most evident in pedagogy, and Hilgartner wants to talk about Cornell as an example.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>you can find Cornell\u2019s core syllabi here: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/syllabi\/\">http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/syllabi\/<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:34 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS has a tendency to not play up its own intellectual coherence.  But it is comparable to other established disciplines.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:36 pm<\/div>\n<p>You can find out more about where Cornell grads have gone here: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sts.cornell.edu\/peoplealum.php\">http:\/\/www.sts.cornell.edu\/peoplealum.php<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:38 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ulrike Felt takes over<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ulrike is ambivalent on talking about cores.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:41 pm<\/div>\n<p>She discusses the Vienna STS degrees, but first looks back to the last two days of the meeting<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>A common idea is that what makes STS is it\u2019s boundary-less-ness.  Another is the reflexive question of the core of STS: how could our core come about?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>over the last two days, we have also spoken much in spacial metaphors, travel, companions, intellectual homes, deserts, garden of eden, and more.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:46 pm<\/div>\n<p>Institutionalizing creates needed space to open up and further develop.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>Non-agreement needs institutionalization because it allows us to have battles without threatening our general livelihood.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>[from the blogger] Welcome to our friends in Vienna!  Do contribute to the discussion if you\u2019d like!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>The Viennese department of STS has existed since 1987.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:51 pm<\/div>\n<p>You can view more about many STS programs around there world on our STS World page: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/sts-world\/\">http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/sts-world\/<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:51 pm<\/div>\n<p>If you want to add your program, do send an email to <a href=\"mailto:sts@hks.harvard.edu\">sts@hks.harvard.edu<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:53 pm<\/div>\n<p>The yearly discussions on pedagogy in Vienna is a classic case of boundary-drawing on the core of STS<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:55 pm<\/div>\n<p>three foci to organize teaching around: knowledge cultures; arenas of interaction; and politics of knowledge and instutitions<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:56 pm<\/div>\n<p>The need is to develop the core of STS in a way that it does not become a millstone around the necks of the students.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:57 pm<\/div>\n<p>The purpose is to develop critical sensibilities, to make connections between seemingly disconnected entities, and to experiment with teh \u201chow\u201d of questions.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 1:59 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yuko Fujigaki now takes the podium.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yuko and Steve\u2019s slides are available on the Program page: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/program\/\">http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/program\/<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yuko\u2019s main point of discussion is on STS education in Japan.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yuko goes through the historical development of Japanese STS, culminating in the 4S in Tokyo last year.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:04 pm<\/div>\n<p>There is no big STS center in Japan, but there are strong connections between the centers.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:05 pm<\/div>\n<p>[from the blogger] We encourage our Japanese colleagues watching to say hello and comment on the discussion!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:07 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yuko turns to the tsunami and nuclear disaster in Japan.  STS researchers are no analyzing the events.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/profiles.google.com\/mikami.univ\">Koichi Mikami<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hi. As a half insider of Japanese STS community,  I agree with Yuko that many educational themes in Japan have been closely related to \u2018social problems\u2019, or \u2018failures of science\u2019. I guess this is another reason why public engagement and ethics are dominant areas in Japanese STS.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:11 pm<\/div>\n<p>We now turn to conversation from the floor.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:12 pm<\/div>\n<p>question from the floor.  Should there be a commitment from STS departments to hire STS graduates?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ulrike answers: as you have seen, there are very different visions over what the field is.  Perhaps it is good that they go into other fields and spread STS that way.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/profiles.google.com\/fallon.samuels\">Fallon Samuels<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>Fallon Samuels, PhD candidate @ Harvard: Can a mic be given to audience members? If not, can the questions and comments be reproduced here? (we cannot hear them) Thanks!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>Steve Epstein asks: He\u2019s not happy with the definition of the core as a process of boundary-drawing on who is in an out.  Second question on institutional models of STS: do dual-citizenship models multiple the possibilities for graduating PhDs?  Are the models useful in bringing STS back to other disciplines, reshaping those disciplines to more STS angles?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>Hi Fallon,  we have a mic now.  and I am reproducing the questions.  If they are not showing up, try refreshing your browser.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>Stephen Hilgartner answers the collective definition issue: people who are going to be within the field need to know the various histories we have gone through.  There isn\u2019t one history, but the various histories can be collectively defined.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:26 pm<\/div>\n<p>Clark Miller adds: when he was at Wisconsin, they hired many people in other departments, but they were mostly interdisciplinary departments.  There, it was the STS unit that was the core many of these people identified with.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>Is the sound better on the questions?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>sound on the questions is great now for me<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Anonymous<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yes, now it\u2019s much better.   Thanks.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/profiles.google.com\/locontoa\">Allison Loconto<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:29 pm<\/div>\n<p>yes, with the passed mic it is.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>Comment from Sheila Jasanoff: She had to formally renounce her Indian citizenship upon her return to India recently.  The Indian government is paranoid about the possible terrorist coming in.  There is rarely a symmetry between things presented as \u201cdual\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:34 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jay Aronson from Carnegie-Mellon: making sure there are post-grad and grad opportunities is key.  The unevenness in difference: there are no sociologists at Carnegie-Mellon.  We need to be flexible in our models, as people come to STS from many different places.  But we do need places like Cornell and others to get a strong STS training.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>Good point Jay\u2019s making \u2013 STS needs to be present and visible in order to attract possibly interested students<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:36 pm<\/div>\n<p>Arthur Daemmrich: Do we want to build a Gates Foundation or a Ford Foundation model?  If it\u2019s the Ford model, we need disciplines.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>Greg Eghigian, Former director at Penn State: understanding STS in an age of entrenchment.  The reasons why Penn State dropped STS.  why were the projects cut?  They were all interdisciplinary, and were seen as \u201cluxury items\u201d.  Despite what the SSRC and NSF say the disciplines seem to reign supreme in hard times.  Is STS just a luxury enterprise?  Having tenured lines didn\u2019t protect us.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Final comments from the panel.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/profiles.google.com\/mikami.univ\">Koichi Mikami<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>I support the point Jay made that we need to think about how other people see us. Sociologists or anthropologists may not have \u2018agreed\u2019 cores of their field, but we seem to assume that they do and they are institutionally or disciplinary secured. We need to be identified by others as a field first and if we are not happy with the way we are identified then each of us can send stronger messages about what we do or what our sensibilities are about. Having wrote this, I am not 100% sure who \u2018we\u2019 are\u2026<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yuko: in Japan, the resources devoted to STS is increasing.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:42 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ulrike: we are moving in different directions, but as a result we need to be attentive to stabilizing the field in one way or another.  We need to be careful in how we talk about our field.  We can use our own political knowledge to position ourselves.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:43 pm<\/div>\n<p>Steve: We have to make the case that STS needs to be part of the core mission of the University.  It is inconceivable to me that if we were to reconstruct the university today that we would not have  a department of science and technology studies.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Anonymous<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:43 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sarah Wagner @ UNC Greensboro: I heartily agree with Arthur Daemmrich, but see it from a slightly different view. In the NC system\u2019s stated logic in staving off cuts, emphasis has been less on disciplinary entrenchment than community engagement\u2013that is, how is our research relevant to local, region communities? STS has much to offer public policy debates because of its dynamic interdisciplinary perspectives.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 2:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks for your discussion!  We will have a short break.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:01 pm<\/div>\n<p>Welcome back!  Our next panel looks at \u201cSTS and Careers: Have we come home?\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:04 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ben Hurlbut begins the discussion.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:07 pm<\/div>\n<p>The panel consists of early career STS Scholars, from the newly tenured, to the just getting started.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:08 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jay Aronson takes over.  He is now Associate professor of STS at Carnegie Mellon, thought that\u2019s an unofficial title.  He deals with civilian casualty in times of conflict.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>He doesn\u2019t consider himself to be a theoretical core, but definitely as the next generation of STS Scholars.  He likes being able to choose approaches from many disciplines.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:10 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS provides a sense of freedom that other fields don\u2019t offer.   For example, being able to work on social forms in many different fora.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:13 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jay discusses the usefulness of having places like Harvard were scholars can come to recharge their skills and passion for STS.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:14 pm<\/div>\n<p>Brice Laurent now takes over.  He is both an STS scholar and a civil servant.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:17 pm<\/div>\n<p>In new problems within the French government, there is a strong push to defining the relevant science in conjunction with defining the problem to be dealt with.  This provides space for STS to enter and contribute to the discussion and policy debates.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:19 pm<\/div>\n<p>The Center for Sociology and Innovation is a unique place for STS in France.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>Shobita Parthasarathy begins with her path towards STS, which started in Biology.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>It wasn\u2019t until she was on a Presidential Commission that she encountered STS.  Until then, she didn\u2019t think about disciplines as different places with different trainings<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>At Cornell, she gained the language to talk about the experiences she had in Washington.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:24 pm<\/div>\n<p>There are important formal institutional connections, but we should also focus on the need to strong informal networks.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS multiples the options in the professional school arena that we should recognize.  Shobita eventually got a jon in a policy school, and hasn\u2019t changed the type of work she does.  That doesn\u2019t mean it hasn\u2019t changed her priorities, but she is still thinking in STS ways.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:26 pm<\/div>\n<p>Her role now involves a lot of translational work, and the fact that STS has footholds in many field is a resource.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>Anne Pollock now begins her thoughts.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>\u201cRace, biology, and American culture\u201d, the position she got, sounded like an interesting description of her dissertation title.  She didn\u2019t want to label herself as a sociologist, so the STS program was a good fit.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>A central question for her: how do we tell stories about technology as we tell stories about race and class?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>Anne describes current moves within the STS program, which includes the move towards a certificate program.  But it is still a work in progress.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kris Saha takes over.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:34 pm<\/div>\n<p>He spends most time in the lab looking at who has the power to create knowledge.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:34 pm<\/div>\n<p>To do his work effectively, he feels he needs to find a home in STS.  But he has yet to see a position open for STS and engineering, or STS and stem cell research.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:38 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sonja Schmid rounds out the panel.  She went through Ulrike\u2019s program in Vienna.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>She then got on to the PhD program at Cornell, which allowed her to combine interest in technology with understanding complex cultural phenomena in a critical way.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:41 pm<\/div>\n<p>She is now in the STS department at Virginia Tech, which is largely engineering.  Every year there are a few STS courses that the engineers take that are very popular.  The STS department also recently launched an undergraduate major.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:41 pm<\/div>\n<p>She is now in the STS department at Virginia Tech, which is largely engineering.  Every year there are a few STS courses that the engineers take that are very popular.  The STS department also recently launched an undergraduate major.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:43 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sonja describes the relationship Virginia Tech has with the Washington DC community, where they have a satellite campus.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:43 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sonja describes the relationship Virginia Tech has with the Washington DC community, where they have a satellite campus.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>If there are questions the online audience would like to ask, please share them.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>Anne Pollock says that Georgia Tech as a strong STS community even though there is little institutionalization.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:48 pm<\/div>\n<p>Shobita: the problem lies in training the next generation of STS scholars.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/profiles.google.com\/locontoa\">Allison Loconto<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:48 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kris\u2019 comments have highlighted precisely the point that Sheila made in the last sesson about the asymmetry of dual citizenship.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kris comments: he benefited from at least having the STS program at Berkeley (where he did his PhD).  It  was an important space to connect with scholars in the field.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sonja add: these spaces are important for both faculty and students.  This is why institutionalization matters.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:51 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ben asks: what role do you see for the disciplinary identity of STS in your toolkit for positioning yourself?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:52 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kris replies: the metaphor of translation is appropriate.  \u201cScience policy\u201d is a more recognized term, but he can point to the outputs from the community, which people in other disciplines can connect with.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:53 pm<\/div>\n<p>Shobita adds: in running the STP program, she varies in labeling her lectures as STS, but STS ideas inflect all her teaching.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:55 pm<\/div>\n<p>Question from the floor, from Nicolle, a colleague at Cornell: she struggles with explaining the value of what she does.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 3:56 pm<\/div>\n<p>Shobita responds: students assume a traditional deficit model.  If that\u2019s what brings them in the door, that\u2019s ok, but we then try to work with (re)shaping that perspective.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>Cormac O\u2019Raifeartaigh asks a question: The lack of penetration of STS into science is still striking.  Much of the last few decades of STS scholarship is ignored (after the Science Wars).<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ben asks for Cormac\u2019s reflections on his year at Harvard<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:01 pm<\/div>\n<p>Cormac: my colleagues and I hugely underestimate the amount of knowledge that STS has built up.  The lack of understanding is often on the scientist\u2019s side rather than the STS scholar\u2019s side.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thomas Pfister asks Brice: From your bureaucratic experience, did you find that STS might be an instrument to discipline the science?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:06 pm<\/div>\n<p>Brice replies: STS is more identified in France as a field of expertise that needs to be included in policy making.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:08 pm<\/div>\n<p>Mark During comments on experience with practitioners: in interacting with them, the concept of ethics cuts across to a lot of issues.  A key to that process is to bring in STS.  It is a body of expertise that provides a new and interesting perspective from the viewpoints of practitioners at all levels.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jay responds: he\u2019s be working with practitioners, and the minute you start probing them, they see it as very political. Ethics is an interesting way in, but ethical questions are political questions.  That\u2019s both bigger and more basic that STS in many ways.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:11 pm<\/div>\n<p>I would like to ask a more career-related question, since all of these panel members are at an early stage in their career. How do they see their own career develop in the next few years, between the pressures of teaching, engaging with both scientists and the public \u2018out there\u2019, application for funds, etc. and how do they see their position in relation to the further establishment of the field\/discipline of STS \u2013 which is presumably something they will be responsible for?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-2 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>Erik, where are you watching us from?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-3 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sorry we didn\u2019t get to your question Erik.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment odd alt depth-4\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>I am watching from Maastricht, the Netherlands \u2013 though I\u2019m currently working with Daniel Barben in the \u201cinstitutional desert\u201d in Germany. And never mind about the question \u2013 I found the discussion very interesting anyway.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:11 pm<\/div>\n<p>Shobita responds: Does not want to lose her STS training in a policy sphere.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:14 pm<\/div>\n<p>Trevor Pinch: is it Science and Technology Studies, or Science, TEchnology, and Society?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:14 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jay and Shobita don\u2019t really think it matters.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>Anne points out that many in her area actually use Science Studies<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>Javier Lezaun asks: many on the panel when through post-doc positions, but didn\u2019t talk about it.  Also, regarding research funding bodies, they are fragile elements.  What are your reflections on interacting with them?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>Interesting question by Javier \u2013 it is my impression in continental Europe as well, that the postdoc phase is the most tricky one in establishing an STS career!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ben and Jay say that their funding time was critical in their career development.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>Shobita adds: her postdocs were instrumental in allowing her to write her book.  The feeling, though, is that there were a lot of postdocs, but not many tenure-line postions.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:24 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kris has a postdoc from Zurich, which really carved out space for his STS work.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:26 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sonja had two postdocs.  It was a good time to extend and solidify her networks, and helped create her home.  It also allowed her to make STS recognizable to other communities like security studies, that did not have a prior awareness of STS.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:26 pm<\/div>\n<p>Alister Isles questions: how can we create new homes for STS?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>Shobita comments: centers don\u2019t necessarily create strong roots.  Secondly, if we make centers that revolve around hot topics, they need to be constructed carefully to ensure they still contribute to the larger community.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jay: It\u2019s not the role of the profession, necessarily, to create the jobs.  It is, however, the role of scholars or trained practitioners to point to the value of an STS training.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>As the panel comes to a close, it\u2019s time for the presentation of the poster prizes.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:32 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kris Saha and Sheila Jasanoff present the awards.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:37 pm<\/div>\n<p>Next we\u2019ll be talking about the provocation document.  Do read it over and provide any comments: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/a-provocation\/\">http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/a-provocation\/<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:37 pm<\/div>\n<p>Back at 12:50 EDT.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:55 pm<\/div>\n<p>We are back to discuss the provocation document<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 4:56 pm<\/div>\n<p>It can be read at <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/a-provocation\/\">http:\/\/stsnext20.org\/a-provocation\/<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:00 pm<\/div>\n<p>What do we share as a community? Is STS more than simply the sum of a variety of disciplinary perspectives?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:02 pm<\/div>\n<p>What is the relationship between the center and the periphery of STS?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Andy Lakoff: What compromises are we willing to make to assist with STS\u2019s institutionalization<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:07 pm<\/div>\n<p>Clark Miller: This document ought to make a strong statement about funding for STS research.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:07 pm<\/div>\n<p>Clark Miller: We need to an actor network analysis of NSF funding for STS<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:13 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sheila: How have the large order of about $1M investments in STS worked out? Cornell (STS), UCSD etc<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Rob Hagendijk<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:17 pm<\/div>\n<p>unfortunately the current speaker cannot be heard on the video<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>Current Speaker is from the NSF<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm<\/div>\n<p>Discussing the political attacks on social science funding at the NSF.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:19 pm<\/div>\n<p>sounds fine from my end.  did you try reloading?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:19 pm<\/div>\n<p>We (STS) needs to make a case that we are making a difference to ensure continued funding<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:20 pm<\/div>\n<p>Chris: What are the types of impact descriptions that would be useful?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Rob Hagendijk<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:22 pm<\/div>\n<p>reloading does not make a diference Sam (funny I see you. Hi!))<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>Question: Does NSF have a reporting mechanism in place to record funded research impacts?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:24 pm<\/div>\n<p>Is anyone else having this problem?  It seems fine from my end<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:24 pm<\/div>\n<p>No problems here<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:25 pm<\/div>\n<p>Tomas: Important to keep contact with funding agencies even when one is not actively submitting grant applications.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:27 pm<\/div>\n<p>Alan Irwin: In Europe the humanities are feeling pressured.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>In Europe the humanities have a more expansive vision in terms of making a difference and are making broad social arguments<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>Alan: How could we have a more expansive vision articulated in the provocation document?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>Nelly: Reinforces the point that STS needs to keep contact with funding agencies and be in conversation with them.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>To all watching, please feel free to leave commentary on the provocation page.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:37 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ben: Deep dependency created if STS has to attach itself and cling to whatever science is in the ascendancy<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:38 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ben: Is it possible to maintain independence and expand our claims of expertise in these funding mechanisms?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>Trevor: Economists while reviewing their own work are very positive while STS reviewers may tend to be less effusive. Is this a problem?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Sheila: STS scholars need to love each other more in their reviews. Historians do and tend to do better<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:41 pm<\/div>\n<p>Observation: the question isn\u2019t about relevance, it is about added value!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:44 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jonathan Marks: The real challenge for STS is to find a way to respond to requests to collaborate and participate without being seen as in service to others.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 5:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>we will be back in 10 minutes<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:10 pm<\/div>\n<p>Next session beginning with introductory remarks.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:16 pm<\/div>\n<p>John Beatty: A surprising thought\u2013at UBC, the new horizon is integrating philosophy into a leadership role with STS.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:21 pm<\/div>\n<p>John Beatty: Although there are intellectual challenges with integrating philosophy into STS, some of the difficulties are personality-based. Some philosophers just don\u2019t want to play ball. But if they do, there are opportunities for productive collaboration.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:24 pm<\/div>\n<p>Question for those following the live feed: what role should philosophy play in STS?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:26 pm<\/div>\n<p>John Beatty: this is not your father\u2019s Oldsmobile\u2014this is a new philosophy!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>And the conference goes multimedia with our first full video courtesy of Stefan Helmreich.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>The video can be found here: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/techtv.mit.edu\/videos\/9502-dv-lab-2011\">http:\/\/techtv.mit.edu\/videos\/9502-dv-lab-2011<\/a><\/p>\n<p>And here\u2019s the website of his program: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/web.mit.edu\/unseen\/\">http:\/\/web.mit.edu\/unseen\/<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>Myles Jackson: STS at NYU has been indelibly shaped by the memories of the Sokal affair.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:37 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jackson: New undergraduate program being developed at NYU\u2013STEMS (science, technology, environment, and medicine).<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:42 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jackson: what is the moral responsibility of producing graduate students at a time when there are not a lot of available faculty positions?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:46 pm<\/div>\n<p>Lakoff: the ecology of Southern California\u2014an island on the land\u2014offers interesting opportunities for STS insights.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:47 pm<\/div>\n<p>Lakoff: New programs being developed in STS at USC: an undergraduate minor and a graduate certificate.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:50 pm<\/div>\n<p>Lakoff: STS scholars can strategically use the fact that scientists are very worried about issues such as the public understanding of science.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:55 pm<\/div>\n<p>Clark Miller: ASU is taking seriously 2 fundamental STS propositions. The first is that the university is a site where the modern world is being constituted and is adjusting what it is doing accordingly.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 6:58 pm<\/div>\n<p>The second is that we should challenge the idea that the university should have a single model. It\u2019s odd that the United States has 150 Research 1 universities organized along the same model. ASU is seeking to create new models, and STS has been centrally involved.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 7:04 pm<\/div>\n<p>Miller: by creating new types of programs, ASU is training STS-informed students who are going into a broad array of academic, public, and private sector positions. This is an interesting way that STS ideas can be spread.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 7:08 pm<\/div>\n<p>Manjari Mahajan: what is striking so far is the variety of models presented. What kinds of opportunities are created in centers that might not exist in a department?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 7:16 pm<\/div>\n<p>David Winickoff: There is a new effort to create STS at Berkeley that is focusing on pedagogy. This is a different approach than he has seen taken by other institution<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 7:17 pm<\/div>\n<p>Jasanoff: One of the insights of STS is that knowledge is being created in new ways as universities change and disciplines change. What implications does this have for the practice and institutionalization of STS?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 7:28 pm<\/div>\n<p>Xaq Frolich asks: how might the discussion here (which is US-focused) relate to creating centers abroad?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 7:29 pm<\/div>\n<p>Rob, do you have an answer?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 7:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>How about some input from our colleagues watching in Portugal, Taiwan, India, and Italy?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 7:38 pm<\/div>\n<p>If you are having trouble with the video feed, try this link: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/cm.dce.harvard.edu\/1999\/01\/89004\/liveClassroom.shtml\">http:\/\/cm.dce.harvard.edu\/1999\/01\/89004\/liveClassroom.shtml<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 7:41 pm<\/div>\n<p>Richard from York, Toronto: Most comments are about research or graduate studies. What about undergraduate programs and how might they fit into our conversations?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 7:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kaushik Sunder Rajan: Thinking about STS in India, one realizes there is very little institutional standing of the field as we know it in the west, but that there is very vibrant engagement with the issues STS scholars care about.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 7:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>Kaushik Sunder Rajan: Thinking about STS in India, one realizes there is very little institutional standing of the field as we know it in the west, but that there is very vibrant engagement with the issues STS scholars care about.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:02 pm<\/div>\n<p>After a quick coffee break, we\u2019ll be back for the concluding wrap-up with Mike Lynch<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:03 pm<\/div>\n<p>Again, for those experiencing a problem with the live feed, we encourage you to try the alternative feed: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/cm.dce.harvard.edu\/1999\/01\/89004\/liveClassroom.shtml\">http:\/\/cm.dce.harvard.edu\/1999\/01\/89004\/liveClassroom.shtml<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:09 pm<\/div>\n<p>The main live stream is now back online.  If you want to pre-load Mike Lynch\u2019s slides, you can grab them here: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/goo.gl\/YrO4r\">http:\/\/goo.gl\/YrO4r<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:30 pm<\/div>\n<p>We are back!<\/p>\n<p>Last Session<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>Mike Lynch presents an editorial view of STS<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:31 pm<\/div>\n<p>He will be speaking about trends in STS<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:33 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS moving away from HPS towards anthro. and cultural studies<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:35 pm<\/div>\n<p>Previous contentious arguments are fading into the background.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:39 pm<\/div>\n<p>STS literature is engaging the \u2018global south\u2019 but most of this work is being published by scholars outside of the \u2018global south\u2019.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Great point by Michael Lynch: interconceptuality not interdisciplinarity.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:40 pm<\/div>\n<p>Michael Lynch: STS is unified in Hybridity<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:45 pm<\/div>\n<p>How should STS deal with political crtique that focuses on scientific uncertainty?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:46 pm<\/div>\n<p>Mike Lynch: symmetry and impartiality mean that STS could crtique the construction of uncertainty as well as certainty<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:49 pm<\/div>\n<p>Mike Lynch the agenda of the last 20 years was set by writings in the previous 20<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:53 pm<\/div>\n<p>Ulrike Felt (outgoing Editor of STHV) responds to Mike Lynch<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 8:59 pm<\/div>\n<p>Questions from our virtual audience?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">STSNext20<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 9:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>Goodbye everyone!<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for participating!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-even depth-1 parent\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 9:15 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks to Sam and all the other livebloggers. It was really valuable to be able to follow the conference virtually!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment even depth-2\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/people\/Erik-Aarden\/1047318015\">Erik Aarden<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 9:16 pm<\/div>\n<p>Fully agree! Thanks for making our virtual presence possible.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\"><a class=\"url\" rel=\"external nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/HaraldKliems\">Harald Kliems<\/a><\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 9:16 pm<\/div>\n<p>Any estimates when the recordings will be made available?<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Ling-Fei Lin<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 9:21 pm<\/div>\n<p>Right, Thank you so much for your efforts to make the live feed\/blogging available to us!<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 9:21 pm<\/div>\n<p>Yes, there will be recordings posted.  We\u2019ll try to get them up as soon as possible, but will likely be at least a week.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment even thread-even depth-1\">\n<div class=\"comment-body\">\n<div class=\"comment-author vcard\"><cite class=\"fn\">Samuel Evans<\/cite> <span class=\"says\">says:<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"comment-meta commentmetadata\">April 9, 2011 at 9:23 pm<\/div>\n<p>Thanks to all of our virtual participants!  If you have comments on the Provocation, to share them.  We\u2019ll also be putting up the provocations from the Friday panels at some point.<\/p>\n<div class=\"reply\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Below is an archive of the live feed that took place during the 2011 conference. 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